People’s Liberation Party (PLP) leader Martha Karua has come forward with fresh revelations about a private phone conversation she had with former Prime Minister Raila Odinga.
In the call, she strongly urged him to reconsider his involvement with President William Ruto’s administration and to step away from supporting it.
Speaking during an interview on NTV on Wednesday, July 23, Karua disclosed that she had personally contacted the Orange Democratic Movement (ODM) leader not once, but twice. The first call was made to share a confidential message.
The second one, however, was more personal and confrontational—she asked Raila to reflect deeply on his current role in the Kenya Kwanza government, especially given the violence and loss of lives witnessed during recent protests.
“After Saba Saba, I called him again and asked him a heartfelt question,” Karua recounted. “I asked him how, after spending decades fighting for the rights and freedoms of Kenyans, he could find peace in aligning with a regime that continues to shed innocent blood.”
She clarified that she wasn’t looking to start a debate with him. Instead, she wanted to plant a seed of reflection—wasn’t it the right moment for him to walk away from this administration? Karua reminded Raila that his influence was so significant that if he withdrew his support, the current government could possibly collapse.
During their conversation, Raila reportedly suggested that the two meet in person to discuss more details about his proposal for a national conclave—a nationwide forum he believes could help fix Kenya’s growing political and economic troubles. However, Karua, who served as Raila’s running mate in the 2022 presidential race, declined the invitation.
She explained her decision by saying that any face-to-face meeting could be misused by President Ruto’s allies to paint her as a peace negotiator, sent to calm down the country.
In her view, that would only serve as a distraction from the real issues plaguing Kenyans—soaring prices of basic goods, widespread corruption, and poor leadership.
Karua’s remarks come shortly after Raila addressed the nation on July 7, during the 35th anniversary of the historic Saba Saba protests.
In his address, Raila called for a national dialogue, saying the country is still grappling with the same problems that sparked the original protests in the 1990s—such as economic injustice and human rights violations.
Raila argued that a national conclave would offer a platform for meaningful public participation, civic action, and much-needed economic and social reforms.
However, Karua made it clear that she is not willing to be part of any talks involving the current leadership. She labeled the Kenya Kwanza regime as “blood-stained” and “untrustworthy,” and said engaging them in dialogue was out of the question.
“Having talks with the rogue Kenya Kwanza administration is simply not an option,” she insisted.
Her hardline position echoes sentiments expressed by former Deputy President Rigathi Gachagua, who also recently criticized President Ruto. Gachagua dismissed the idea of holding any form of discussions with Ruto, calling him a habitual liar.
In conclusion, Karua urged Raila to think deeply about his legacy and his current role in supporting a regime she believes is responsible for worsening the country’s problems. She suggested that without his influence, the administration’s grip on power might not hold, and the country could begin charting a new course.
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